Welcome back to This Is An Incredibly Long Podcast. Wait... Welcome back to This Is Our Design! If you've been one of those people asking for an unnecessarily long discussion of the Hannibal finale recorded by three insane people, you've come to the right place. Co-hosts Sean Colletti and Kate Kulzick are back to talk "Mizumono" (and the season/series in general) with This Is Our Design veteran Noel Kirkpatrick from TV.com. We usually try to outline the conversation topics in these posts, but there are simply too many this week. Everything. That is what's addressed in this podcast. Stick around to the end (fellow insane people) for the Hannibal Bonus Round and some closing thoughts and thank yous for everyone who has participated in this podcast in some form or another. Gratitude to listeners for being so supportive! We hope you enjoy this extra long discussion of what is undoubtedly one of television's finest season finales. Sean and Kate will be back during the summer to podcast about Hannibal's first season, so be on the lookout for those. Have a listen and feel free to join the discussion by leaving some comments.

Co-hosts Sean Colletti and Kate Kulzick return this week to talk some "Ko No Mono" with Tyler Smith of Battleship Pretension. Topics include Viewer Response Theory and the Death of the Showrunner, how sympathy functions in relation to antagonists in Hannibal, and ideas of time reversal coupled with parenthood. So nothing very in-depth or anything like that. Also be on the lookout for the moment when Sean admits that he was wrong and Kate was right: episode 11 of This is Our Design really allows Sean's character to develop in interesting ways because of that. We can't wait to see where he's at once we get to the season finale. And of course, also making their returns are "Kate's Classical Corner" and "The Devil in the Details."

You thought you could get rid of us, did you? Well, it may interest you to know that we're training a militia of pigs to eat you! Not really, though. We prefer listeners of This Is Our Design to not be dead, if we can help it. But what are we going to do with all these pigs now? We're certainly not going to ask Hannibal, because last time he took six hours to examine all of our pigs before picking one. Then he fed it to us, stuffed with Freddie Lounds. Wait, what? Look, it's almost 6 am and we haven't slept. That's the kind of dedication that co-hosts Sean Colletti and Kate Kulzick try to show listeners. This week, David Bax of Battleship Pretension drops by to talk all kinds of "Naka-Choko." Topics of the discussion include point of view, understanding, sympathy, empathy, Michael Pitt as The Joker Mason Verger, and uneventful sex scenes. Also tune in for some more "Kate's Classical Corner," in which Kate explains how untimely this episode is in her life right now. Plus, "The Devil in the Details" continues to be a thing that Sean keeps forgetting to tell the guests about beforehand. What's up with that? Have a listen and feel free to join the discussion by leaving some comments.